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Title: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: X on August 07, 2008, 02:01:PM
This just in. They'll also have the CineStar equivalent of Goldclass, luxury seating with 'butler service.'

Quote from: Grand Cinemas
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The real experience begins now at Grand Festival Cinemas
August 7, 2008 - A new age in digital and 3D cinema unfolds today in Dubai as Grand Cinemas, the Middle East’s most renowned cinema chain, launches its new, cutting-edge Grand Festival Cinemas. The first of its kind in the region, the new state-of-the art cinema offers movie-goers a host of Grand Services, including RealD and Digital Cinema, whilst redefining the concept of theater luxury.

Home to 12 screens, and with a capacity to seat up to 2200 moviegoers, Grand Festival Cinemas comes replete with a host of exciting new fea-tures, guaranteed to exceed expectations. In addition to RealD, which uses advanced 3D technology, and Digital Cinema, which offers unparal-leled picture quality and sound, its new features include Grand Class, the ultimate in theater luxury, and other top of the range Grand Services from ticketing to concessions. Unlike other cinemas, Grand Festival Cinemas will also be accessible to corporate entities for a wide range of events from workshops to seminars and forums.

“We are extremely happy to announce the launch of our 19th multiplex located at the square of Dubai Festival Centre. Our ongoing vertical expansion in the cinematic industry across the Middle-East is paralleled by our vision of transcending the characteristic qualities of entertainment,” said Jean Ramia, Group Operations Director, Gulf Films L.L.C / Grand Cinemas.

Grand Festival Cinemas will house the first digital cinemas in the Middle East, replete with cutting-edge digital projectors to offer unparalleled picture quality and sound, as well as the most comprehensive selection of movies and documentaries from around the world. Digital Cinema uses digital technology to distribute and project motion pictures, and because these movies can be distributed via hard drives, DVDs or satellite, rather than rely on conventional film reels, cinemas equipped with digital technology have access to a much larger selection of movies.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ozzylogic on August 08, 2008, 06:33:PM
I hope they don't increase ticket prices.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: X on August 08, 2008, 08:36:PM
They tried once. They failed.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: X on August 15, 2009, 02:14:PM
Have you been to Reel Cinemas at The Dubai Mall? It was opened (partially) just a wee bit ago.

Share your thoughts, experiences, rants or love right here -- especially talk about Picturehouse, the purported arthouse hall of Reel Cinemas, and what it has to offer, if anything.
--

Here's a writeup we did incorporating your reports from the ground:

Quote from: archive.twelvethirtysix.com
Is Reel Cinemas at The Dubai Mall the Real Deal? | 16 August 2009

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Reel Cinemas is a 22-screen cinema megaplex located in The Dubai Mall, as AME Info ingratiatingly put it, “in the heart of Downtown Burj Dubai.” The new Cineplex competes in a somewhat monopolistic market dominated by two cinema players: Grand Cinemas which operates the majority of cinemas in Dubai; and Cinestar Cinemas whose home has remained the crowded Majid Al Futtaim shopping enterprises such as City Center and Mall of the Emirates. So what has Reel Cinemas really got to offer that other cinemas don’t?

Reel Cinemas at the Dubai Mall opened to the public on August 14, but it does not yet have its 22 screens — only 10 screens are currently in operation, in what has become a Dubai tradition: the soft launch. The remaining 12 more screens, movie lovers have been promised, will open for business “later this year.”

So, what will Reel Cinemas offer besides a shining lobby, funky lighting and waiters to serve you snacks while you recline in your comfy new leather chairs, watching the latest blockbuster in their Platinum Movie Suite?

archive.twelvethirtysix.com provides you the skinny: Click here to read more (http://archive.twelvethirtysix.com/features/reel-cinemas_dubai-mall)
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on August 15, 2009, 03:21:PM
I'm experiencing this in a few hours. Report soon.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: fizz on August 15, 2009, 11:49:PM
Reel Cinemas has a distinctly different ambience. When you walk through its wide, carpeted, leather chair bound corridors, to walk to the cinema screens or the washrooms, movie trailers play in the background. There is no elevator muzak running in the soundtrack, and this makes it seem like the people behind it mean serious business when it comes to films. The interiors are refreshingly different and the seats are comfortable and well spaced - in the cinema I attended, there was enough room to stretch your legs without the fear of hitting the back of the seat in front of you. The rest is standard cinema stuff - a popcorn stand that serves the staple menu for movie goers (though for every 2 tickets bought you get a coupon for a hotdog, only valid between 6-9pm). As of now, only the regular screens are open and the more exclusive Platinum Suites and the art house Picturehouse scheduled for later.

After the screening, I bumped into the anxious GM of Reel Cinemas, Gordon Kirk, and asked him when we could expect the opening of Picturehouse in particular. He said he expected this to happen sometime in late September or October (once Ramadan is comfortably out of the way). I also took the opportunity to enquire what kind of films we could expect, using 2001: A Space Odyssey as an example, but Kirk was not sure, citing many factors such as the availability of prints in the region, the stand of the censors and how well they are backed by their singaporean parents (Reel is essentially the Gulf franchise of the Cathay group). A look at Cathay's Picturehouse selection in Singapore (http://www.thepicturehouse.com.sg/) however doesn't hold much hope - their present release is Mongol, a film that played in the UAE during November of 2008, and their upcoming release is the sci fi, arthouse darling Moon. Still, it leaves ample room for hope and anticipation of good things to come in the future.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ayaa1977 on August 16, 2009, 12:11:AM
That sounds exciting Fizz, sadly I missed it by a hair. Dubai Mall is a great place to be at, and it is more chilled out than the frantic Mall of Emirates where all the kids hang out. I think now that the cinema is opened there, instead of hanging out in Ibn Batotta all the time when I am in Dubai, I would spend more time in the majestic Dubai Mall.

Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: madali on August 16, 2009, 12:14:AM
I still havent gone to Dubai Mall.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ayaa1977 on August 16, 2009, 12:59:AM
I still havent gone to Dubai Mall.

Lol@Mad, you remind me of myself in Jeddah where everyone go to the new hotspot and I don't. While in Dubai I go nuts and try to go everywhere. It is just because in your city you know that you can visit the place anytime you want so you are not in a rush to do so, and boom a year passed and you haven't checked it out.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on August 16, 2009, 01:07:AM
I like the way the people deal with "space". They've allowed for long corridors with floors tiled at the edges, carpeted in between.

Also, the Box-office is at the ground level, and the screens on the upper level, accessible by escalators. After the movie, you exit back on the ground level. This is good practice to not mix the exiting and entering audiences. Even at the box office, each counter has two touch-screens, one facing you and one facing the attendants - so you get to see and select your seats before the tickets are printed.

Since it is new, the screens and the projections sparkled (not literally). We'll have to see how they maintain this over time. One this is assured: I'm watching my next few movies at Reel.

Btw, I saw a movie on Screen-9. This was as big as Snakeplex' screen# 4 or 5.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ayaa1977 on August 16, 2009, 01:17:AM

Btw, I saw a movie on Screen-9. This was as big as Snakeplex' screen# 4 or 5.

What's Snakeplex?
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: X on August 16, 2009, 02:08:AM

Btw, I saw a movie on Screen-9. This was as big as Snakeplex' screen# 4 or 5.

What's Snakeplex?

It's something a WM Forum tradition to call Grand Cineplex (Wafi City) cinema by this moniker. The nickname 'Snakeplex' stuck after a snake was reported by people to have been found crawling under the feet of cinemagoers, a few years ago! It is no urban legend! Here is a news article (http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1429657.html) confirming it (thanks to Sandeep for fishing it out from internet archives!)

And now you know. Back to Reel Cinemas...
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ozzylogic on August 16, 2009, 08:14:AM
I still havent gone to Dubai Mall.

You're missing the fishies. And Taco Bell. And Kinokuniya. Apart from all that, it's the same as any other mall.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: sandeep on August 16, 2009, 04:29:PM
The new cinema seems to have some good thought gone into design and easing the buying process, here is their website:

http://www.reelcinemas.ae/ (http://www.reelcinemas.ae/)
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: kaytee on August 16, 2009, 05:42:PM
I still don't understand why cinemas in Dubai don't have automatic buying machines installed outside cinema counters like every chain in the US has. All you have to do is pick the movie, the show and the seats, pay via cc and the tickets are printed. That shouldn't be too hard to do.

People who want to pay cash can go stand in the freaking long line?
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ayaa1977 on August 16, 2009, 05:45:PM
Well Kaytee, if they do that then they will have to scrap the AED2 they charged for e.ticket, don't they? I am just saying!
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on August 16, 2009, 05:52:PM
They have it in the Grand Cinemas (Snakeplex & Festival City) - and I use it without exception if I go to these venues.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: animatedude on August 17, 2009, 11:59:AM
http://www.arabianbusiness.com/564958-dubai-mall-cineplex-begins-operations (http://www.arabianbusiness.com/564958-dubai-mall-cineplex-begins-operations)
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: X on August 17, 2009, 02:30:PM
WM posted a very comprehensive report on Reel Cinemas on the main site. At the moment, it seems to be the definitive 'guide' to the implications of this new cinema multiplex.

http://archive.twelvethirtysix.com/features/reel-cinemas_dubai-mall
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: X on September 19, 2009, 11:13:PM
Final Destination and the original Toy Story in 3D. October 2009.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: kaytee on November 14, 2009, 06:50:PM
Picturehouse has started with a very arthouse movie called Paper Heart.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on November 15, 2009, 12:22:PM
Yes, all the screens were scheduled to open this past weekend - dunno if they did. I didn't check.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: Annabel on November 15, 2009, 03:47:PM
i like reel cinemas. it's shiny and doesn't smell like the awful urine-like sanitizer sprayed all over the grand mercato.

they still play crap blockbusters but, well, what do you expect? we still live in dubai.

thank god for mahmovies. at least we have 3 more weeks of decent cinema left this year! did you see "last year in marienbad" last week?! it was amazing! can't believe an audience of 300 sat transfixed by a movie like that in dubai. it was almost as surreal as the movie itself!
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: kaytee on November 20, 2009, 08:46:AM
The movies coming at Picturehouse are:

Paper Heart
In the loop
Cold souls
No one knows about Persian cats
The Shock Doctrine


They also have an offer on where in you can watch all these movies as and when they release for aed 100 instead of aed 150.  
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: madali on November 20, 2009, 06:18:PM
So has anyone actually watched "Paper Heart"? I'm all "yay" for more indie films in Dubai, but to be honest, can't really have the motivation to watch them. Still seems pretty much better watching it at home, then going through all the traffic and crowd and doing it in a bigger screen.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ayaa1977 on November 20, 2009, 06:51:PM
So has anyone actually watched "Paper Heart"? I'm all "yay" for more indie films in Dubai, but to be honest, can't really have the motivation to watch them. Still seems pretty much better watching it at home, then going through all the traffic and crowd and doing it in a bigger screen.

This is it your test guys, you should be living in that freaking cinema ;D

Just kidding, I heard about this film months ago and it sounded to me like a big load of pretentious crap. I'd rather watch G.I.Joe The Rise of Cobra again.

On the other hand I am fairly interested in In The Loop.

This might be too ambitious and wishful thinking, but I would love it if they take London's Prince Charles Cinema's model of scheduling different screening for different films around the day. I think that would ensure more business because the viewers will have more choices. That's being said, I know that such planning will be more difficult and costly, and the market's demand may not support it. 
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: X on November 20, 2009, 11:24:PM
I don't know who is programming these indie films at The Picturehouse, but with the exception of Cold Souls, these are very unimaginative choices. I understand there are other factors such as distribution rights, but seriously...I can see why even hardcore cinephiles like Mad would not be interested in driving down to see such dreck on the big screen.

Solution: They need to consult archive.twelvethirtysix.com (If you work for Reel Cinemas and are reading this, contact us (http://archive.twelvethirtysix.com/?page_id=30)now, and we'll sort you out!)
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: kaytee on November 22, 2009, 12:02:AM
I have to agree with AK, none of those movies make me wanna jump, the choices are rather lame. There are so many interesting indie flicks out there but I guess getting the rights sorted is a major issue for them.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: animatedude on February 27, 2010, 12:38:AM
http://www.reelcinemas.ae/cineplexes/movies.html (http://www.reelcinemas.ae/cineplexes/movies.html)

WTF?! i thought this is an arthouse theatre?
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ayaa1977 on February 27, 2010, 02:01:AM
http://www.reelcinemas.ae/cineplexes/movies.html (http://www.reelcinemas.ae/cineplexes/movies.html)

WTF?! i thought this is an arthouse theatre?

One of the 20 screens is an arthouse theatre not all of them. 
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on March 16, 2010, 04:41:PM
The Mirdiff City Centre opens its doors today. Opening shortly there too is the Cinestar Cinemas with 11 screens.

(http://www.cinestarcinemas.com/img/Cinestar_Mirdif_01.jpg)
(http://www.cinestarcinemas.com/img/Cinestar_Mirdif_02.jpg)
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ExtremeScreen, the country's first is apparently a HUGE sized screen.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: animatedude on March 16, 2010, 04:55:PM
lol..i thought the Reel cinema was enough.i guess Dubai is really all about bigger better all the time..
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on March 16, 2010, 05:15:PM
There's 10 multiplexes here now:

GRAND (6):
Snakeplex (near Wafi)
Ibn Batuta
Dubai Festival City
Mercato
Metropolitan Hotel
Al Ghurair

CINESTAR (3):
Mall of the Emirates
Deira City Centre
Mirdiff City Centre

REEL (1):
Dubai Mall
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ayaa1977 on March 16, 2010, 06:10:PM
ExtremeScreen, the country's first is apparently a HUGE sized screen.

Not only it is about size, I read that 4D ExtremeScreen offers a new experience of special effects like smells, wind, water spray, fog, light, etc. It started in Honk Kong and now Dubai is catching on, so don't forget your tarps next time your go there, lol.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on March 16, 2010, 06:54:PM
Aww - this should have been here before 2012. Or My Bloody Valentine 3d!
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: X on March 17, 2010, 02:56:PM
I don't think new cinemas has much to do with film "culture" in Dubai. But it is an interesting business development which clues us about the growing demand for movie entertainment, using new technologies and differentiation tactics.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on April 01, 2010, 06:34:PM
Cinestar Mirdiff City Centre opens tomorrow, 2nd April.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: kaytee on June 10, 2010, 02:59:PM
They opening up at Dubai Marina Mall too...
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: animatedude on December 22, 2010, 03:01:PM
what's extreme screening?
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on December 22, 2010, 03:17:PM
what's extreme screening?

http://cinestarcinemas.com/uaemovies/extremescreens.aspx
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ozzylogic on December 22, 2010, 03:32:PM
Extreme screen is over-rated. Watched 2 movies there, couldn't figure out the difference between regular screens and this.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: X on December 22, 2010, 03:48:PM
The standard cinema screen is supposed to be 40ft wide.

The "Extreme Screen" at CineStar Mirdiff is 66ft wide. That is the only difference I note, besides the funky seating arrangement.

RealD 3D is a image projection technology that can work on any size screen. Obviously the bigger the screen, the better.

IMAX screens can go up to 88 feet wide. I believe the IMAX screen in Dubai measures 70ft in width. Now couple that with their superb proprietary image projection/ sound systems...and the clear winner emerges.

Your education is now complete.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on December 22, 2010, 04:03:PM
...except! The screen at the IMAX cinema in Dubai is damaged, or has marks on it which shows and distracts during a movie. It hadn't been repaired or replaced until last time I went there a couple of months ago.

Also, in IMAX Dubai, the seating is overwhelmingly close to the screen. The Extreme screen is positioned at a comfortable distance.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ozzylogic on December 22, 2010, 04:06:PM
Also, in IMAX Dubai, the seating is overwhelmingly close to the screen. The Extreme screen is positioned at a comfortable distance.

True. The seating arrangement is good, decent leg room too. Shame about the annoying blue lights though.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: X on December 22, 2010, 04:15:PM
...except! The screen at the IMAX cinema in Dubai is damaged, or has marks on it which shows and distracts during a movie. It hadn't been repaired or replaced until last time I went there a couple of months ago.

That's a shame. My last time there was 3 years ago and I still remember the marks you speak of...

Why doesn't someone complain directly to IMAX corporate in Canada? I mean, if it's the *only* IMAX screen in the UAE (in the Middle East?), then I am sure they would bring down the hammer on local owners Gulf Film.

P.S. Does it also still smell funny at IMAX Ibn Battuta? I remember that too!
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ayaa1977 on December 22, 2010, 08:09:PM

Why doesn't someone complain directly to IMAX corporate in Canada? I mean, if it's the *only* IMAX screen in the UAE (in the Middle East?), then I am sure they would bring down the hammer on local owners Gulf Film.


Actually Qatar has its own IMAX.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: animatedude on December 22, 2010, 11:36:PM
3D or not 3D? im afraid i might watch it in 3D and the sunglasses will ruin the colors and it will be blurry..
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: X on December 22, 2010, 11:44:PM
3D glasses do wash out the colors a bit. They especially affect the pink in the skintone and the magneta hue of the color spectrum. I would still say go for 3D for your 1st viewing, and then watch it again in 2D. (Assuming you would watch it twice -- I know I would.)
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ozzylogic on December 23, 2010, 08:14:AM
It looked just fine on 3D.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on December 23, 2010, 10:01:AM
Depends on where you saw it. I saw it at the REEL cinemas last night, and the 3D experience was sub-par. Many of the details that were visible at EXTREME were not visible at Reel. Also, the image was darker at Reel, like watching the movie through sun-glasses. Most importantly, the 3D at EXTREME was comfortable, but like on previous occasions, the 3D at Reel gave me (and my brother) a headache.

I could really compare the two because I saw the same movie on back-to-back evenings at the two venues.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: X on December 23, 2010, 10:45:AM
Shariq, I'm curious: doesn't Reel Cinemas also use the RealD 3D image projection system?

The reason the image was darker is probably because they need to replace bulbs. This is a common maintenance issue.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on December 23, 2010, 10:55:AM
Reel Cinemas uses Dolby 3D. That's what their glasses said. The RealD 3D name/logo was nowhere. Cinestar & Grand use RealD 3D.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: X on December 23, 2010, 10:58:AM
That's funny then. Dolby 3D is a better viewing system compared to RealD 3D -- Dolby's got better color rendition and less crosstalk...

Where were you sitting and how close were you to the screen?

The dimly-lit image may be another culprit...
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on December 23, 2010, 11:15:AM
I was sitting close to the rear, a little to the left of the center.
Can wrong implementation also be the culprit? Maybe their setup is not as precise as the technology demands?


About the glasses: IMAX 3D has the biggest viewing glasses. Then RealD. Then Dolby, whose lenses are the smallest (relatively). While IMAX 3D & Dolby3D glasses are heavier and are re-used (you return them when exiting the cinema, they're sanitized, and used again for next screening), RealD glasses are disposable, light and easily slide over the average regular eye-glasses - but either you buy a pair each time for AED 3.00, or you keep the ones you got, which get scratched easily.

Pound-for-pound, I find viewing 3D on the Extreme screen on RealD technology the most *comfortable* experience: screen size is great, glasses fit easily over mine and aren't heavy, and the distance between a good seat and the screen is just right.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on December 23, 2010, 11:27:AM
Note: Moved posts from Tron Legacy (http://archive.twelvethirtysix.com/forum/index.php/topic,1737.0.html) thread discussing 3D cinemas & projection to this "Cinemas in Dubai" thread.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: X on December 23, 2010, 12:19:PM
Note: Moved posts from Tron Legacy (http://archive.twelvethirtysix.com/forum/index.php/topic,1737.0.html) thread discussing 3D cinemas & projection to this "Cinemas in Dubai" thread.

Good call, Shariq. Thanks.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on January 27, 2011, 04:04:PM
Below by Roger Ebert (http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2011/01/post_4.html)



Why 3D doesn't work and never will. Case closed.
By Roger Ebert on January 23, 2011 7:57 PM

I received a letter that ends, as far as I am concerned, the discussion about 3D. It doesn't work with our brains and it never will.

The notion that we are asked to pay a premium to witness an inferior and inherently brain-confusing image is outrageous. The case is closed.

This letter is from Walter Murch, seen at left, the most respected film editor and sound designer in the modern cinema. As a editor, he must be intimately expert with how an image interacts with the audience's eyes. He won an Academy Award in 1979 for his work on "Apocalypse Now," whose sound was a crucial aspect of its effect.
Wikipedia writes: "Murch is widely acknowledged as the person who coined the term Sound Designer, and along with colleagues developed the current standard film sound format, the 5.1 channel array, helping to elevate the art and impact of film sound to a new level. "Apocalypse Now" was the first multi-channel film to be mixed using a computerized mixing board." He won two more Oscars for the editing and sound mixing of "The English Patient."

(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/shariqq/WalterMurch-thumb-260x365-30770.jpg)

"He is perhaps the only film editor in history," the Wikipedia entry observes, "to have received Academy nominations for films edited on four different systems:

• "Julia" (1977) using upright Moviola
• "Apocalypse Now" (1979), "Ghost" (1990), and "The Godfather, Part III" (1990) using KEM flatbed
• "The English Patient" (1996) using Avid.
•  "Cold Mountain" (2003) using Final Cut Pro on an off-the shelf PowerMac G4.

Now read what Walter Murch says about 3D:

Quote
Hello Roger,

I read your review of "Green Hornet" and though I haven't seen the film, I agree with your comments about 3D.

The 3D image is dark, as you mentioned (about a camera stop darker) and small. Somehow the glasses "gather in" the image -- even on a huge Imax screen -- and make it seem half the scope of the same image when looked at without the glasses.

I edited one 3D film back in the 1980's -- "Captain Eo" -- and also noticed that horizontal movement will strobe much sooner in 3D than it does in 2D. This was true then, and it is still true now. It has something to do with the amount of brain power dedicated to studying the edges of things. The more conscious we are of edges, the earlier strobing kicks in.
 
The biggest problem with 3D, though, is the "convergence/focus" issue. A couple of the other issues -- darkness and "smallness" -- are at least theoretically solvable. But the deeper problem is that the audience must focus their eyes at the plane of the screen -- say it is 80 feet away. This is constant no matter what.

But their eyes must converge at perhaps 10 feet away, then 60 feet, then 120 feet, and so on, depending on what the illusion is. So 3D films require us to focus at one distance and converge at another. And 600 million years of evolution has never presented this problem before. All living things with eyes have always focussed and converged at the same point.

If we look at the salt shaker on the table, close to us, we focus at six feet and our eyeballs converge (tilt in) at six feet. Imagine the base of a triangle between your eyes and the apex of the triangle resting on the thing you are looking at. But then look out the window and you focus at sixty feet and converge also at sixty feet. That imaginary triangle has now "opened up" so that your lines of sight are almost -- almost -- parallel to each other.

(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/shariqq/2020202020salt_clear3D2-thumb-425x283-30781.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/shariqq/2020202020salt_blurry3D-thumb-425x283-30784.jpg)

We can do this. 3D films would not work if we couldn't. But it is like tapping your head and rubbing your stomach at the same time, difficult. So the "CPU" of our perceptual brain has to work extra hard, which is why after 20 minutes or so many people get headaches. They are doing something that 600 million years of evolution never prepared them for. This is a deep problem, which no amount of technical tweaking can fix. Nothing will fix it short of producing true "holographic" images.

Consequently, the editing of 3D films cannot be as rapid as for 2D films, because of this shifting of convergence: it takes a number of milliseconds for the brain/eye to "get" what the space of each shot is and adjust.

And lastly, the question of immersion. 3D films remind the audience that they are in a certain "perspective" relationship to the image. It is almost a Brechtian trick. Whereas if the film story has really gripped an audience they are "in" the picture in a kind of dreamlike "spaceless" space. So a good story will give you more dimensionality than you can ever cope with.

So: dark, small, stroby, headache inducing, alienating. And expensive. The question is: how long will it take people to realize and get fed up?

All best wishes,

Walter Murch
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ayaa1977 on November 14, 2011, 03:59:PM
I had the worst film experience in my life in Grand Festival City last Thursday while watching Paranormal Activity 3, and that is not a hyperbole at all. It was THE single WORST experience in cinema in my life. Every cinematic nightmare you would expect in a cinema (safe from a snake crawling between the seats) was there that 10:30 pm showing of PA3 . There were kids in a fucking horror films, fucking kids!! they were speaking throughout the film. There were people taking phone calls during it.

Worst of all, there was a band of very unruly annoying teens who were loud and obnoxious throughout the film, as if they were watching the biggest comedy of the year. They kept laughing, making noises, and truly ruining the whole experience. At one point one of the audience went to complain to the management, and an usher came tried to shush them, we were shushing them as well, but to no avail. We really gave up after a while. After the films ended one of those fucking teens stood up, bowed and said" this is the film I directed", and the guy went there to complain stood up and said "If you are this immature, you should not come to cinema and ruin everyone's night", but they laughed at him. And the sad thing, the film was actually decent and way scarier than the second one, and perhaps as good as the original, but all of that was ruined by those fucking brats. I would never ever watch a film in DFC on a weekend evening, NEVER!!
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: fizz on November 14, 2011, 04:08:PM
DFC is labelled the most popular family cinema in Dubai - this is the reason I avoid it, especially on weekends. In fact, I avoid late night shows on Thursday generally, unless it is a big budget popcorn action film or a comedy (which I rarely watch on my own accord anyway). Horror films on weekends are the worst of the lot - especially anyone under the age of 20, is usually present with a crowd and they follow whatever the jock of the group is doing, which is usually howling at scenes that scare them. I label this the defence mechanism of retards.

I also had the displeasure of watching PA2 at Festival last year - and while the film wasn't great, it was pretty much ruined by people howling and cheering at the stupidest of things. At this rate, even if the Exorcist (or whatever you consider to be the best horror film of all time) played here, you'd still end up thinking you walked out of a Adam Sandler film.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on November 14, 2011, 04:15:PM
Per rule, I do *not* watch movies on Thursday & Friday evenings - unless it is a noisy film like Transformers or Pirates of the Caribbean. My first choice for big movies is to catch the Wednesday night midnight screening (that is, if I haven't seen it in the pre-release screening already).

Otherwise, it's weekday nights, shows that start after 10pm. Mostly quiet, and perfect for movies like Drive.

What you went through is occurs commonly in Dubai on weekends. It has been happening for years. And the cinema management does nothing about it, ever.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ayaa1977 on November 14, 2011, 04:24:PM
Per rule, I do *not* watch movies on Thursday & Friday evenings - unless it is a noisy film like Transformers or Pirates of the Caribbean. My first choice for big movies is to catch the Wednesday night midnight screening (that is, if I haven't seen it in the pre-release screening already).

Otherwise, it's weekday nights, shows that start after 10pm. Mostly quiet, and perfect for movies like Drive.

What you went through is occurs commonly in Dubai on weekends. It has been happening for years. And the cinema management does nothing about it, ever.

It is not like I had much choice, I am there for a few days. That being said, Reel Cinemas in Dubai Mall are much better even on weekends, nothing even came close to ruin my experience there, and I would rather watch anything there. My problem was that PA3 was only showing in Grand Cinemas, and have I known what would happen, I would have went to Ibn Battota instead. A self respecting management should do something about this subject. I know ushers are not paid enough to take crap from those bratty teens, but the higher management should address the issue which I am sure has came to their attention several times before, stop the screening and started throwing out people from theater and making an example of them.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on November 14, 2011, 04:57:PM
...and lose revenue? All they care about is selling tickets, man.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: fizz on November 14, 2011, 05:09:PM
As Shariq has said, rule of thumb in Dubai is to avoid weekend shows - especially late night Thursday/Friday. Management can't do much about the bratty teens, especially if they represent a certain ethnic group indigenous to the region (sorry if I sound racist, but that's a fact here).

The Tree of Life screening I attended had a baby less than a year old with a family. In fact, there were many kids in attendance whose parents probably thought looking at the posters that the film was some new age Brady Bunch update starring Brad Pitt. I had no choice and could only attend the Friday evening show, but the kids soon left the show (after moaning and groaning a bit at the beginning) and after abt 15 mins of cooing, the baby slept throughout the film, as I'm sure did many adults!
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ayaa1977 on November 14, 2011, 07:39:PM
You are not being racist. The teens in my show happen to be local. I think teens are horrible everywhere, but they are brattier and more idiotic in our region.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: fizz on November 14, 2011, 07:45:PM
You are not being racist. The teens in my show happen to be local in my showing. I think teens are horrible everywhere, but they are brattier and more idiotic in our region.

I rest my case.

As stated earlier, I've never had too many issues with people from any other region, because they know they might get in trouble...but not these guys!
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: animatedude on November 15, 2011, 03:12:AM
haraaaam annoying teens in cinemas are so adorable!  ;D

why would anyone watch a Paranormal i don't know what movie anyway?
why would you watch a horror movie on a weekend late night show? they are the worst...

"ethnic group indigenous to the region" ? you mean indians? loool
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: fizz on November 15, 2011, 09:53:AM
"ethnic group indigenous to the region" ? you mean indians? loool

I said indigenous, not majority, but its not surprising to see you make the confusion.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on November 22, 2011, 06:28:PM
Hank Green's 2D-Glasses: Turns 3D movies back to 2D

(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/shariqq/2Dglasses.jpg)

Now @ Amazon.com!
 (http://www.amazon.com/Hank-Greens-2D-Glasses-Headaches-Discomfort/dp/B004X4L1UC/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1321971979&sr=1-1)

 8)
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on January 14, 2012, 12:21:AM
Alamo Draft House is a cinema in Austin, Texas.

Someone in their cinema was texted (SMS'd) *twice*. Guess what they did?

Quote
We do not tolerate people that talk or text in the theater. In fact, before every film, we have several warnings on screen to prevent such happenings. Occasionally, someone doesn't follow the rules, and we do, in fact, kick their asses out of our theater. This video is an actual voicemail from a woman that was kicked out of one of our Austin theaters. Thanks, anonymous woman, for being awesome.

They played the below video in front of R-rated movies on weekends (06/06/11)

Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: kaytee on January 14, 2012, 09:53:AM
LoL brilliant, now that takes balls and credit to Alamo Drafthouse for standing up to that biatch...
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ozzylogic on January 14, 2012, 03:37:PM
Wish they'd apply this here. Why have they stopped using signal jammers?
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ayaa1977 on January 14, 2012, 05:55:PM
I heard about the Alamo Draft House before and their rules. I also heard the message a few months ago.  I personally support them 100%.  I support their strict conduct rules, and enforcing them.  I also support adopting those rules. I support physical violence and even torturing those fuckers who ruin the experience of others in theatre. 
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on March 29, 2012, 02:36:PM
The 3D projection at REEL CINEMAS (specifically, screen# 5) was pretty bad: more on it from the John Carter thread, quoted here to keep it relevant.

The 3D was appalling. I haven't seen worse 3D on-screen - it was so out-of-focus or wrongly done, that for a good few minutes, I watched it with one eye closed/covered. Eventually, like kaytee, I too walked out of the screening.

Yes, we were at the same screening - at Screen#5 of Reel Cinemas in The Dubai Mall.. Fizz stuck by it though, and he spoke to the distributor afterwards, who in turn blamed the projection for it - he said that the problem is with Reel Cinema's projection alignment.

He probably was not being just defensive of the post-conversion. I have always maintained that Reel @ The Dubai Mall has the *worst* 3D in all the cinemas I have watched 3D here.

I would love to re-experience this in 3D at Screen# 1 at Vox @ Mrdiff City Centre to be able to make a comparative judgement (they arguably have the best 3D projection here), but I'm not risking AED 60 for a movie with potentially bad 3D.

I did watch the movie eventually, in 3D, and in Vox Cinema's MAX screen at Mirdiff City Centre.

More surprising though is how bad the quality of 3D is in Reel - since I have seen the exact same movie in both cinemas, Reel is really messed-up in how they are showing 3D. In all honesty, I have decided to not go to Reel for 3D movies now onwards - why consciously walk into a cinema when I know it may spoil my movie experience?
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on March 29, 2012, 04:11:PM
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/shariqq/IMAX_meydan.jpg)

There's a new IMAX screen in Dubai, at Meydan in Nad Al Sheba (http://www.meydan.ae/racecourse.asp#racecourse-imax).

I had a chance to experience it last evening at a "soft opening". The invite was to experience the made-for-IMAX 45-minute movie The Young Black Stallion at the IMAX theatre and to learn about the venue and its plans.

The screen itself, befitting the brand, was gigantic. The dimensions were 29 meters wide by 22 meters tall (which approximates to 95 feet wide by 72 feet tall). That’s huge! To give it a sense of scale, the new IMAX screen is approximately 3.8 times the size of the Vox MAX (Extreme) screen at Mirdiff City Centre, and approximately twice the size of the IMAX screen at Grand Ibn Batuta. Put another way, imagine placing approximately 31 units of 42" flat screens next to each other and another 42 units of 42" flat screens on top of each other just to replicate the width & height of this new IMAX screen, which is like as watching a spread of a whopping 1302 flat screen 42" TVs for the surface area this new IMAX screen covers! Simply put, it is HUMONGOUS.

(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/shariqq/ScreenComparison.png)

The screening, though, didn't unleash the full potential of the theater (The Young Black Stallion features some atrocious performances and little else!). The movie itself is nine years old, and looked out dated. It wasn't up to mark to what we have become used to of late in terms of visual and audio splendor. I would like to watch better &/or recent IMAX presentations to better judge how good the projection and sound quality are. Even so, what was evident was the size of the screen, and how much of the peripheral vision it occupies. After a few minutes into the movie, I removed my eye-glasses (I am only slightly myopic) , because the frame of my glasses would hinder what the naked eye could behold uninhibited. The movie projected on the entire screen is sight to behold, and come official opening, it is a venue that must be experienced for movies with *big* production values (The dark Knight Rises, perhaps?). There were some distractions while viewing the movie that looked like dirt on the screen and a blemish that would often appear in lighter areas like a giant moth -- but I am guessing these are to do with the age of the film reel rather than the screen or the projector. Further experiences at the venue can verify this.

The theater itself has 562 seats arranged in 14 rows (rows A to N) and I was seated on row K, close to the horizontal center. While this gave a good view of the entire screen, I had to crane my neck upwards to take stock of the magnitude of its height. Ideally, I would rather choose to sit anywhere between rows F to H for a more comfortable vantage point though I cannot yet say how the viewing experience would be from the higher rows. The key difference in the seating arrangement between IMAX Ibn Batuta and the IMAX at Meydan was the distance from screen-to-seat. Unlike Ibn Batuta, where the seats seem uncomfortably close to the screen, the seat-to-screen distance at Meydan was better and hence more comfortably viewable. This helped, especially since it did not require turning my head side-to-side as frequently, unless there was some action towards the edge of the screen that required my viewing attention. The entrance to the theater was from the sides, from a step below the lowest row. The seats flipped upwards when not occupied, probably to compensate for the limited leg room between two rows. The seats were adequately comfortable with drink holders between each seat.

The lobby and reception area to the theater aren't complete yet, but that is probably expected since the theater is not expected to open to the general public with popular releases until Eid-ul-Fitr, i.e., 3rd week of August this year. The access to the theatre is from a side entrance of the Meydan hotel. There's a basement level with plenty of parking available, visitors can then take escalators or an elevator to the 3rd floor to access the theater.

As of now, the complex is home to just one screen - the IMAX screen. There are plans to have more non-IMAX cinema screens added, but this came across as an off-handed comment that is possibly still under consideration. Emphasis though was given to the idea that the Meydan complex will be a family destination with enough to do for kids and adults.

With The Datk Knight Rises partially shot on IMAX (approx. 50 minutes of it), and scheduled for release on 20th July in the USA, it is highly likely that the movie may be delayed in U.A.E. (and the Middle East) due to Ramadan for an Eid release. If that happens, expect Meydan to take the opportunity for a grand opening tie-in event. Expect me to be in line with many others to watch Batman on the biggest screen in the Middle East.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on March 29, 2012, 04:12:PM
Fuck, a small type-up on may last evening's experience turned into an 800-word thesis!
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ayaa1977 on March 29, 2012, 04:48:PM
Good coverage Shariq, your coverage almost answered all questions, but is the screen run by one of the three major chains or independently?

By the way, according to the Dubai cinemas websites The Dark Knight Rises will be released for Eid, so your guess was spot on. I usually arrange a summer visit for fun and shopping to Dubai every year, and I don't think I am gonna change that this time around. I never travel in Eid uk-Fitr, but I am considering a weekend visit to Dubai after the Eid commotion to catch up with it, but it all depends on budget of course.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on March 29, 2012, 04:55:PM
There was no branding or presence of Grand, Reel or Vox there. So can't say anything on who will run it yet. If it's a one-off screen only (without additional theaters coming up), I think it may be managed independently by Meydan itself.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: kaytee on March 29, 2012, 05:19:PM
Excellent news, i always maintained my view that the IMAX in Battuta was way below standard and the seats are too close to the small screen. They are actually cheating by calling it IMAX, glad that finally it has competition.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on March 29, 2012, 05:34:PM
I agree now that I've looked at the dimensions. I've just dug up the sizes online, and made a small graphic to compare screen sizes. Added to the post. And it does show that while the Ibn Batuta IMAX screen is larger than the average and even VOX Max screen, it isn't the gigantic IMAX screen that the brand is famous for.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ayaa1977 on March 29, 2012, 06:01:PM
Fuck this is huge! I hope they don't charge upsize price for the ticket ;)
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: fizz on March 29, 2012, 10:58:PM
Shariq, excellent coverage, this should go up on the main site.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on March 29, 2012, 11:13:PM
Thanks. I'll need to clean it up/edit it before posting it though. Hopefully on Sunday.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on April 05, 2012, 04:27:PM
After some much-needed editing by Fizz, the IMAX article is now up on the main site. I've posted it on facebook too. Thanks, fizz!
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ozzylogic on April 13, 2012, 03:22:PM
This is really funny!

http://www.panarabiaenquirer.com/wordpress/dubai-teens-campaign-against-loud-cinemas/
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on May 27, 2012, 11:45:AM
In Dubai, and wanna experience the new IMAX at Meydan? Excellent deal from Cobone:

Watch Mission Impossible 4 in IMAX at Meydan IMAX Theatre for AED 15 only, or for AED 30 get popcorn and a soft drink too.

Here: http://www.cobone.com/deals/dubai/meydan-max-mission-possible/9688


If only they chose a better movie (Avengers?), I'd go for it.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ozzylogic on May 27, 2012, 02:40:PM
Prometheus would be fantastic on it.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ayaa1977 on May 27, 2012, 02:49:PM
Is ticket price still the same in Grand or Reel? Or did they hike it up the way Vox did??
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: fizz on May 27, 2012, 05:06:PM
The only thing worse than watching MI4 is having to forever live with the memory that it was shot here.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on May 27, 2012, 05:23:PM
Is ticket price still the same in Grand or Reel? Or did they hike it up the way Vox did??

All raised to match Vox.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ayaa1977 on May 27, 2012, 07:09:PM
The only thing worse than watching MI4 is having to forever live with the memory that it was shot here.

I beg to differ. I watched twice in the cinema, and I really enjoyed so much even for the second time.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ayaa1977 on May 27, 2012, 07:11:PM
Is ticket price still the same in Grand or Reel? Or did they hike it up the way Vox did??

All raised to match Vox.

Crap!
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ozzylogic on July 19, 2012, 12:21:PM
Yay

Quote
Dubai Grand Cinemas has banned children under five years from attending film shows after 7pm, XPRESS can reveal.

Children below five years are not allowed to watch any movie (even G-rated films) in the evening in any of Grand Cinemas’ 23 Megaplexes and 180  screens across the UAE.

A notice placed in front of Ibn Batuta’s Grand Megaplex, forewarned movie goers: “Any children under the age of 5 years are not allowed after 7pm even for the General (G) rated movies with the exception of animated movies (Internal Policy)."

Source: Gulf News (http://gulfnews.com/about-gulf-news/al-nisr-portfolio/xpress/articles/grand-cinemas-bans-kids-in-uae-theatres-after-7pm-1.1050999?localLinksEnabled=false&utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=&utm_content=&utm_term=%26245755)

Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on July 22, 2012, 12:16:PM
Further to my post that describes the Meydan IMAX (http://archive.twelvethirtysix.com/forum/index.php/topic,1747.msg42083.html#msg42083), here is something more I learned today:

IMAX & Digital IMAX are two very different things. In fact so much, that Digital IMAX is even called LieMAX sometimes (by people who favour the original format).

Difference:
The "Digital IMAX" cinemas don't have the propriety "IMAX" projectors, but two Christie 2K projectors. This means, that the total resolution is lower than at a true IMAX venue, and also is of a different ratio.

(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/shariqq/IMAX_comparison.jpg)

The smaller image on the left is a Digital IMAX image. The larger one on the right is a true IMAX image. You can see that the true IMAX has more of the image at the top & bottom.

Now, this doesn't matter when a movie is not shot on IMAX (like the IMAX-converted releases of most movies recently). But when a movie has footage shot on IMAX cameras: The Dark Knight, Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol, The Dark Knight Rises, some of the image is lost when watching the movie in Digital IMAX screens.

Apparently, this is the reason the prologue for TDKR didn't play in Dubai (and many IMAX cinemas worldwide), since Nolan had asked for themn to be played at "True" IMAX cinemas only.

Thankfully, the Meydan screen is a true IMAX, unlike the Ibn Batuta screen which is a digital IMAX screen. How do we know? Here: http://www.lfexaminer.com/theaIntl.htm#UAE

(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/shariqq/IMAX_comparison_2.jpg)

The "D" next to Grand Megaplex means it is digital. The "1570" next to Meydan means it is IMAX film format, the real thing.

So now, apart from that huge screen, we also know that Meydan IMAX is the real thing.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/shariqq/ScreenComparison_detail.png)
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: kaytee on July 22, 2012, 02:23:PM
Where I watched TDKR in Singapore also was a LieMax I think now. But here's hoping the Meydan IMAX releases TDKR during Eid.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on July 22, 2012, 02:54:PM
Meydan IMAX will launch "officially" with the release of TDKR. It is known.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: animatedude on July 22, 2012, 04:01:PM
where's Meydan IMAX exactly?
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on July 22, 2012, 04:10:PM
Nad Al Sheba. At the Meydan Race-course/hotel/complex.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: fizz on July 22, 2012, 05:24:PM
I love the energetic zeal in Shariq's post...it almost has an insiders scoop feel to it. Good work in digging out these facts.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: animatedude on July 22, 2012, 05:30:PM
so it's a race-course+5 star Hotel+Complex and it has the best IMAX maybe in the middle east?

How can someone trash Dubai now?
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: animatedude on August 05, 2012, 05:53:PM
Further to my post that describes the Meydan IMAX (http://archive.twelvethirtysix.com/forum/index.php/topic,1747.msg42083.html#msg42083), here is something more I learned today:

IMAX & Digital IMAX are two very different things. In fact so much, that Digital IMAX is even called LieMAX sometimes (by people who favour the original format).

Difference:
The "Digital IMAX" cinemas don't have the propriety "IMAX" projectors, but two Christie 2K projectors. This means, that the total resolution is lower than at a true IMAX venue, and also is of a different ratio.

(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/shariqq/IMAX_comparison.jpg)

The smaller image on the left is a Digital IMAX image. The larger one on the right is a true IMAX image. You can see that the true IMAX has more of the image at the top & bottom.

Now, this doesn't matter when a movie is not shot on IMAX (like the IMAX-converted releases of most movies recently). But when a movie has footage shot on IMAX cameras: The Dark Knight, Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol, The Dark Knight Rises, some of the image is lost when watching the movie in Digital IMAX screens.

Apparently, this is the reason the prologue for TDKR didn't play in Dubai (and many IMAX cinemas worldwide), since Nolan had asked for themn to be played at "True" IMAX cinemas only.

Thankfully, the Meydan screen is a true IMAX, unlike the Ibn Batuta screen which is a digital IMAX screen. How do we know? Here: http://www.lfexaminer.com/theaIntl.htm#UAE

(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/shariqq/IMAX_comparison_2.jpg)

The "D" next to Grand Megaplex means it is digital. The "1570" next to Meydan means it is IMAX film format, the real thing.

So now, apart from that huge screen, we also know that Meydan IMAX is the real thing.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/shariqq/ScreenComparison_detail.png)

Excellent and very informative post, any idea why none of the above info isn't available on their website or Facebook page?

Thanks man.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: fizz on August 05, 2012, 07:34:PM
Excellent and very informative post, any idea why none of the above info isn't available on their website or Facebook page?

Thanks man.

Because no has insightful people like Shariq who understand what they are talking about!
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ayaa1977 on August 05, 2012, 11:16:PM

Because no has insightful people like Shariq who understand what they are talking about!

100% agree! The frustrating thing with such venues in our region is that they hire machines not fans. Your qualifications are only your degree and so called experience not your passion and creativity. I would think after spending so much in building such an amazing and unique theatre, they would have spend a tiny fraction of that money in hiring a good advertisement team and building a good website instead of that pathetic immature sad excuse for a website they are having right now.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on August 07, 2012, 04:08:PM
With confirmation that the ticket cost @ Meydan IMAX is AED 60 for 2D movies, here's something more - the seat map (via spy-cam)!

(click on image for a larger version)

(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/shariqq/MeydanIMAXseatmap-small.jpg) (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/shariqq/MeydanIMAXseatmap.jpg)

When going for screenings, the seat range you should be aiming for are rows D, E, F or G, seat numbers 19-25.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: kaytee on August 08, 2012, 12:23:PM
I would say anything from A - F should do the trick. Anyway we can reserve or book tickets online?
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on August 08, 2012, 12:36:PM
The top rows didn't look like they'd give the best view, but I'll verify this when I go there on 16th.

They don't have online ticketing, or even phone reservations yet. The tickets are voucher booklets, with show date & times hand-written on them. I think it will be some time till they get their ticket-printing machines in place.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: fizz on August 08, 2012, 03:07:PM
Explain spy-cam to me...
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on August 08, 2012, 03:44:PM
Explain spy-cam to me...

Oh, just a fancy way of saying I took a photo of the seat-map sheet using my phone-camera while the lady at the counter was charging my brother's Credit Card for our IMAX tickets :)
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: fizz on August 08, 2012, 06:36:PM
Nice, but why aren't these appearing as exclusive breaking news items on our FB page?
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on August 08, 2012, 09:33:PM
Honestly, didn't think of putting it there. Also, would it not be very Tabloid kind, considering we are anything but sensational...
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: fizz on August 08, 2012, 09:49:PM
I think it might add to the buzz creation about a REAL IMAX screen that we've written about already. Also if you slightly edit that pic, the details will become clearer. Your call, but I know what you mean about the sensationalism.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: animatedude on August 08, 2012, 09:58:PM
Who made the pic in Shariq's post?
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: fizz on August 08, 2012, 11:54:PM
Who made the pic in Shariq's post?

I believe his 2 year old son.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on August 22, 2012, 06:27:PM
It has been confirmed. Meydan IMAX has designated some seats as "VIP SEATS". These seats are priced higher since they offer the "best viewing experience". The VIP seats are at AED 75.00 vs AED 60.00 for non-VIP seats.

(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/shariqq/IMAXSeatMap.jpg)
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ozzylogic on August 22, 2012, 08:47:PM
I'm fine with Seat 11 and 33 :D
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on August 22, 2012, 09:37:PM
I'm fine with Seat 11 and 33 :D

You gotta split really WIDE for that.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ozzylogic on August 22, 2012, 11:12:PM
I'm fine with Seat 11 and 33 :D

You gotta split really WIDE for that.

Haha!
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: kaytee on August 22, 2012, 11:48:PM
So what does that do to our bookings?
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on August 23, 2012, 12:06:AM
Meydan takes seat bookings as reservations only. They hadn't introduced this VIP price when I had booked. So I am guessing they will ask us to pay AED 75.00 per ticket hen we turn up.

I will make a fuss though - saying I verified at time of booking that it was AED 60.00, and that they should have informed me in advance if they intended to make me pay more.

(Let's hope they aren't reading this! ;) )
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: kaytee on August 23, 2012, 12:28:AM
Ozzylogic just posted this on facebook, if that is the case then i have an ENBD card. And I think I will go and get the tickets tomorrow before they change the rules again.

Quote

Meydan IMAX Theatre
DEAR ALL: Regarding the NBD offer, there was a miscommunication at your bank’s call center. The offer from Meydan IMAX was and is that all the Emirates NBD Credit Card customers can buy one ticket with their credit card and receive one free companion ticket. This is per transaction and cannot be combined with any other offer. Apologies for the inconvenience and we appreciate your understanding. We look forward to seeing you and your friends in our theatre again soon.

Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on August 23, 2012, 12:43:AM
Excellent! Any idea which one of the ENBD cards is the offer on? I have an ENBD card too, but it's a regular (non-branded or "special" card).

Lemme know if you go tomorrow - I'll give you the reservation number.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on August 23, 2012, 12:45:AM
Ozzylogic just posted this on facebook, if that is the case then i have an ENBD card. And I think I will go and get the tickets tomorrow before they change the rules again.

Quote

Meydan IMAX Theatre
DEAR ALL: Regarding the NBD offer, there was a miscommunication at your bank’s call center. The offer from Meydan IMAX was and is that all the Emirates NBD Credit Card customers can buy one ticket with their credit card and receive one free companion ticket. This is per transaction and cannot be combined with any other offer. Apologies for the inconvenience and we appreciate your understanding. We look forward to seeing you and your friends in our theatre again soon.


Excellent! Any idea which one of the ENBD cards is the offer on? I have an ENBD card too, but it's a regular (non-branded or "special" card).

Lemme know if you go tomorrow - I'll give you the reservation number.

Also, if the offer is for One+One free only (not 2+2 or 3+3), then lemme know, I'll come by with my card too.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ayaa1977 on August 23, 2012, 12:34:PM
I was there last night to book my tickets for todays screening, and at the boxoffice chart all of raw A desognated VIP. 
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ozzylogic on August 28, 2012, 10:09:AM
Meydan IMAX really needs to do something about the people who work there:

http://www.7daysindubai.com/Batman-viewing-dark-night-fan/story-16746460-detail/story.html
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on August 28, 2012, 11:25:AM
I will agree with one of the comments, which says that the most irritating people are those that arrive after the screening has started, like the one who wrote that letter to 7-Days. He complained baout his seats being taken after the movie started - at that point, the cinema may well have just ejected them from the hall.

You want your seats, get there on time, and with enough time to settle down *before* the movie starts.

Of course, that doesn't mean the cinema was not at fault for selling the same seats twice, or the bitchy response by the customer service. But the customer is also at fault.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ozzylogic on September 28, 2012, 09:42:PM
Shreq, do you remember what seats you booked when we all went for TDKR? I had the club card so I've booked G27 as that was the closest available seat to the centre, for the 30th, as that's the last day for TDKR.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on September 28, 2012, 10:02:PM
I had booked D20-25, which they turned out to be VIP seats, so we sat on seat numbers G17-21.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: fizz on September 28, 2012, 10:42:PM
G27 sounds too far from the centre...stick to early 20's I guess. Don't they have a map on their site? I don't think the card allows you to get the free tickets above G.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on September 28, 2012, 10:45:PM
Don't they have a map on their site?

We have on on ours...

It has been confirmed. Meydan IMAX has designated some seats as "VIP SEATS". These seats are priced higher since they offer the "best viewing experience". The VIP seats are at AED 75.00 vs AED 60.00 for non-VIP seats.

(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/shariqq/IMAXSeatMap.jpg)
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: fizz on September 28, 2012, 11:39:PM
Lol, we should just get Meydan to pay us royalties!

So 27 isn't all that bad, but 22/23 would be perfect. I just sat there recently (though it was E) and the angle and size were PERFECT.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ozzylogic on September 29, 2012, 12:39:AM
Shariq's seating picture was really helpful and helped me decide, as the only other available seat on G was 17, so 27 was 1 seat closer (yay).

Yeah, no VIP seats using the free pass, but that's okay.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: animatedude on October 18, 2012, 04:19:AM
what the hell is Dubai Flamingo?!

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=9766 (http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=9766)
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on October 23, 2012, 05:11:PM
The VIP seating zone have been expanded to include all of the top two rows.

(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/shariqq/MeydanIMAXseating-resized.jpg)

Attached full-size image.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on November 02, 2012, 08:22:PM
Ozzylogic just posted this on facebook, if that is the case then i have an ENBD card. And I think I will go and get the tickets tomorrow before they change the rules again.

Quote

Meydan IMAX Theatre
DEAR ALL: Regarding the NBD offer, there was a miscommunication at your bank’s call center. The offer from Meydan IMAX was and is that all the Emirates NBD Credit Card customers can buy one ticket with their credit card and receive one free companion ticket. This is per transaction and cannot be combined with any other offer. Apologies for the inconvenience and we appreciate your understanding. We look forward to seeing you and your friends in our theatre again soon.


This EmiratesNBD offer of Buy-One-Get-One-Free was for The Dark Knight Rises only. Bought my tickets for Skyfall tomorrow, and the offer didn't apply.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ayaa1977 on January 02, 2013, 02:15:AM
I looked up the websites of the three UAE chains and there are no dates for releasing the prestigious award contenders. do you know of dates for releasing films like Django Unchained, Les Miserable, and Zero Dark Thirty?   I will come back in less than 3 weeks insha Allah and it'll be a shame to miss them.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: animatedude on January 02, 2013, 03:30:AM
http://voxcinemas.com/coming-soon.aspx (http://voxcinemas.com/coming-soon.aspx)

you will be able to catch Zero Dark Thirty and Django Unchained....Les Miserable will be out this weekend i think and will be pulled after one week because 76% will fail to pronounce the title right to buy tickets and 24% will leave after they find out it's more Moulin Rough and less Braveheart.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: ayaa1977 on January 02, 2013, 08:01:AM
Thanks Dude! I guess they just updated these dates, because last I checked they did not have it. According to the current schedule, Les Miserables will open this weekend, Django Unchained on the 17th, and Zero Dark 30 on the 24th. All of these dates work for me. Let's hope they meanwhile they don't poll out Life of Pi and The Impossible. I already so Pi but I would really love to see it again. Also I see that Lincoln, Gangester Squad, and Hansel and Gretel are all expected to be released in the weeks to come, so I think my six days trip to Dubai will be really busy.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on September 05, 2016, 03:04:PM
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/shariqq/Movies%202016/IMAXdfc_zpsbnrla7y6.jpg)
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: kaytee on September 05, 2016, 04:04:PM
They mean LieMax.

Didnt know they were changing things up at DFC.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on September 05, 2016, 04:16:PM
I have a feeling this is Laser IMAX (ala MoE) rather than Digital IMAX (ala LieMAX ala IfB). Good thing is Mashreq gives 50% off.

I'll check it out when there's a movie there worth watching and report back.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: fizz on September 06, 2016, 06:36:AM
When I was at festival city a couple of days ago, the cinema was under heavy scaffolding so I guess it must be for the makeover plus the new IMAX.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on September 09, 2016, 10:10:PM
IMAX @ DFC report:

1) It is Digital IMAX, like Ibn Batuta and unlike Mall of the Emirates' Laser IMAX.
2) Screen#1 has been retrofitted with IMAX. This means that:
  a) the seating is nice and spread, unlike the steep angle at Ibn Batuta
  b) the screen has been replaced with wall-to-wall and floor-to-ceiling canvas in the IMAX dimensions.
  c) 2 IMAX digital projectors have been installed, and the speakers have been replaced as per IMAX configuration (including 5 speakers behind the screen).
3) I sat in row#7. I reckon up to 2 rows higher (#6 and #5) will also be optimal seating. Anything higher or lower means you may be looking up or down at the center of the screen. Naturally, this is a subjective opinion.
4) Tickets cost AED 60 per seat, and Mashreq gives a 50% discount on it.

I watched a 3D movie, and the projection, sound (bass!) were crisp and crystal clear. The comfortable seating is a *huge* bonus here. It is a great option to have over the no-discount MoE IMAX or the crappy seat and distance at IfB.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on September 11, 2016, 10:23:AM
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/shariqq/Movies%202016/ReelVisa_zps2zgjrzxj.jpg)

Reel Cinemas offer: Buy one and get one free with Visa Checkout (http://reelcinemas.ae/en/promotions/promotiondetail.aspx?CompID=tcm:168-95886)


Make sure to select the Visa Checkout button when you pay to redeem this offer.
A maximum of five complimentary tickets for each purchase.

Terms and Conditions:
    - Offer is available for standard 2D viewings everyday at The Dubai Mall.
    - A maximum of five complimentary tickets for each purchase
    - Promotion excludes viewings on UAE Public Holidays.
    - Consumer must select the Visa Checkout offer and complete the purchase using Visa Checkout in order to avail the discount.
    - Offer available while supplies last and as communicated on ticketing.reelcinemas.ae via pop-up.
    - Offer available on Reel Cinemas web, mobile web and Reel Cinemas mobile application.
    - The purchased ticket cannot be refunded, exchanged for cash or changed to another date/movie.
    - Offer is valid until September 30, 2016
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on September 22, 2016, 07:48:PM
Digital IMAX (NOVO @ IfB and DFC) vs IMAX with Laser (VOX @ MoE).

Similarity:
- Both technologies use two projectors in to project the image on-screen. In 2D, the images from the two projectors are projected superimposed on each other with a half-pixel offset, thus increasing the screen-resolution.
- The output of the digital media server is modified real-time based on feedback from cameras and microphones in the auditorium, and therefore maintains alignment with sub-pixel accuracy


Difference in 2D:
Digital IMAX (NOVO) uses 2 x 2K-resolution projectors for a perceived resolution to approximately 2.9K.
IMAX with Laser (VOX) uses 2 x 4K-resolution projectors for a perceived resolution to more than 4K.

Difference in 3D:
Digital IMAX (NOVO) uses each 2K-resolution projector for the image of each eye, for a resolution of 2K.
IMAX with Laser (VOX) uses each 4K-resolution projector for the image of each eye, for a resolution of 4K.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on April 09, 2017, 11:22:AM
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/shariqq/Movies%202017/Reel_Etisalat.jpg)

Reel Cinemas offer: 50% discount on all movie tickets from Sunday to Wednesday with Etisalat (http://reelcinemas.ae/en/promotions/promotiondetail.aspx?CompID=tcm:168-102275)


Offer has to be booked via Etisalat Marketplace (https://marketplace.etisalat.ae/signin.php).

Terms and Conditions:
    - Offer valid at The Dubai Mall & Dubai Marina Mall.
    - All movie tickets from Sunday to Wednesday.
Title: Re: [Dubai] Cinemas in Dubai
Post by: shariqq on July 14, 2019, 10:27:AM
The "Largest" Laser IMAX screen in UAE, the one in IMG Worlds, measures 24.4m wide and 13.8m high with a seating capacity for 360 guests.

I'll look for dimensions of the other large-format screens and post them here for comparison sake.